I think I got our mail straightened out – finally.
Back in the early 1990s (maybe even the late 1980s) my husband and I opened a USPS Post Office Mail Box at a local Post Office. At the time we lived in an apartment and did not want the mail for our craft business to come to our apartment lest the landlord think we were running a big time business in our apartment. The Post Office which was in walking distance of our apartment did not have any available boxes, so we went to the next nearest Post Office and opened the box there. When we we bought this house it was in a third local community so we kept the box where it was to avoid having to change addresses on various items. The Post Office that our house mail goes to is actually much further away from where we live than either of the two mentioned and is not in a direction we go to often. So we left our craft business mail going to its PO Box. Originally I would go to this Box and pick up the mail daily Monday to Friday and mail out any outgoing mail we had. When husband retired it became something we both did together.
About 7, maybe 10 years ago, we started having problems with mail deliveries to our house – we had several pieces of mail that we should have received and did not - and that was just the mail we were expecting – we did not know what other mail might have never have made it to us. We also received pieces of mail that had been opened and taped closed again. Having done this myself once or twice – I knew it probably meant that someone else had received these pieces of mail, opened it without looking at the name it was addresses to, and then when the error was realized, taped it closed again and dropped into the mail for delivery. We also received mail for people that not only had we never heard of, we had never heard of the streets which they lived on – and husband has lived in this area since he was 7 (and I for 30+ years when this happened) so the streets were not anywhere near us - so they were probably not just misdelivered by the local mail carrier. We decided we need to have our mail not go through our home post office for security and safety. Rather than open up a second Post Office box, we just changed our mailing address for almost all of our mail to our business box. This has worked very well – until now.
Back in mid March husband decided we should not be going into a Post Office in general and this one in particular (the local community has a much higher number of Covid-19 cases than ours and others in the area do). I came up with the idea of making a once weekly run to this Post Office on late Sunday nights – on the logic that since it closed at 1pm on Saturday and was closed on Sunday – it would mean that than the few people who went in to pick up mail from boxes or to mail something out with the computer setup in the lobby, Sunday night , it would have had the fewest people in it, for the longest time. So on the last two Sundays in March we picked up mail at 11 pm – using a credit card to activate the door unlock. After that, though, husband thought it too unsafe to go at all.
Thinking quickly the last Sunday night we went, I went online and put in a “temporary change of address” for 2 months for the mail in the box to be forwarded to our house. I had to do it in the name of our business as that is all that the USPS website would let me do. Since it said that the mail could only be forwarded to the business name in which the box was held and that the business would be responsible for all forwarding all mail to anyone receiving mail in the Box. Sounds like we would be getting all the mail - right?
No, only mail with the name of our business could be forwarded. I found this out when I called after 2 weeks had passed and we had not received any mail forwarded. Our business generally receives only it's bank statement and credit card statement – and we have not used the credit card since maybe mid March. This is not much of a help. The very nice female Postal employee I spoke with offered to mail us the accumulated mail to give us some time to figure it out. I thanked her and she put the mail in an envelope and mailed it to our house. Two weeks later I called again and apologized and asked if I could pay the postage for her to again send mail to us – she said she just could just mail it the same way again. Three weeks later I called her and – well, you can see where this is going.
Luckily I use Quicken for our accounting and had an ongoing, constantly updated list of when our bills would be due. I would call up each credit card – even ones I was sure we had not used – to make sure of the amount due and when or that no amount was due. I did the same with the utilities and any other bills – such as insurance. I write a cover letter and send the check with it, except for the few bills that I have received in time to pay normally.
Last time I called to have the mail sent to us, I asked if there was way to close the box in the name of the business and immediately reopen it in one of our names as a personal box – I even offered to pay the annual fee again. This started a discussion among several employees at this Post Office and myself – they did not know about a difference between “business” and “personal” boxes and did not have any record of same – though the main computer did. Apparently one has to come into the Post Office to close a box – so that would not work. One employee spoke with the employee in charge of the boxes and they worked it out so that he would change the name and status of the box for us. I did go online and change the mailing address for my 2 magazines.
This was finally done!! While we have not received any forwarded mail as of yet (well, I only check it on Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday and it is Wednesday so there may be mail sitting out there in the box from today's delivery that I will get tomorrow), it is done. I went online and was able to put in similar temporary changes of address for my maiden name, our craft business (since the original one has ended), our reenactment unit and my embroidery chapter – the latter two do not have their own mailing address and I receive the business mail for them as I am the treasurer of each.
Hopefully we will start receiving our mail from the box here at our house.
THOUGHT OF THE WEEK -
What works well for one in normal times, might not work well when one should stay home. There is always some way to deal with problems and people are very understanding and nice right now due to the pandemic. Be sure to thank those who help you and let their bosses know how helpful they have been (as I am going to do) so that they know that their help is appreciated so they will go out of their way to help others in the future when they need help.
Showing posts with label mailbox. Show all posts
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Thursday, June 18, 2020
Thursday, June 22, 2017
SAGA OF THE NEW MAIL BOX
Getting things done moves slowly in our house. To give you an idea of how slowly - we have been in the house over 25 years and still have not had a house warming party. Most things do not take that long, but we tend to be over cautions and take our time. We shopped for 3 years before buying a new snowblower - our old one not having been used in decades and was no longer working.
Now some background. For over two decades we had a great Post Office where we live. The mail was delivered with no problem. When we went away for summer vacation and had our mail held, when we picked it up there was no problem and mail delivery was immediately restarted. About 3 years ago we started having problems with our mail delivery - in the past 2 years, when I started keeping track, three items for my accounting business from IRS - with all my personal and business identification information in all three - went astray and never made it here. Two credit card statements - from two different banks - ditto. A few bank statements from assorted banks - ditto. Several pieces of mail - mostly ads, but still they could have been important mail, has shown up having been opened by someone else and then taped closed again - obviously delivered to someone else and opened in error by them, taped closed and dropped back in the mail. We have gotten a number of items addressed to other people and delivered to us. Now, I don’t mean the neighbor next door or down the street - these are addressed to people on streets we have never heard of and we have lived in the immediate area for almost 40 years and husband grew up for another 15 or more years, so these are not streets in the nearby area either. We have been working on switching our mailing address to our Post Office box, which is at a different Post Office than the one our house mail goes through. When we mail items out they go through the Post Office with our box. (Due to the design of the different Post Offices’ coverage areas by community our Post Office is further away from us than two other Post Offices as we live at the far northern end of the coverage area, so we have always used one or the other of these two nearer Post Offices to send out mail.)
When we used to travel by car and stay at hotels we would take several weekend trips during the year and a longer summer vacation (up to 3 weeks when husband was working). We would not have our mail held for the weekend trips - we would leave after Friday’s mail was delivered and take it in before we left and then just Saturday’s and possibly Monday’s mail would be delivered depending on whether we came home Sunday or Monday night. We would have the mail held by the Post Office for summer vacation and then go in, pick up the mail, and restart delivery. (We would not notify the other Post Office to hold the Box mail either, except for the summer as they automatically set aside in the back any excess mail over the size of our box.)
We now tend to travel in the middle of the week instead of the weekends for our short trips - and there are fewer of them. It is easier to get a space at a RV park midweek - a reservation at an RV park generally cannot be canceled close to the date so we tend not to make reservations for short trips until we know for sure that we are going. Also the place we normally go for short trips is a heavy tourist area with a lot of weekend visitors which crowd many of the places we go and annoy husband, so we go midweek instead. Now when we go away the mail three to four days of mail ends up sitting in the box in front of our house. (We tend to leave earlier in the day on the trip as some local main roads are under construction and we have to get to a certain point after the worst of rush hour and before construction starts for the day, so the first day of the trip’s mail is now in the box where before we took it in before we left.) So we now feel more uncomfortable leaving the mail in the box in front of the house while we are away. We don’t want to have the mail held as this has become a problem with our Post Office. The solution? We decided last year that we need to have a locking mailbox for the front of the house.
We have a post mail box, meaning we have the type of box that sits on top of a post, similar to those in more rural areas where the boxes sit along the side of the road so that the postal delivery person (who used to be the “mailman”) can put the mail into the box without leaving his vehicle. However, we have our post and mailbox adjacent to our front door not at the street - just a bit more secure than having the mailbox at the street.
On and off since the beginning of 2016's travel season we have been looking at replacement mail boxes. We picked out one that we liked - it is shaped like a regular post mail box (round top), but locks closed. Somehow that idea got set aside for the winter and nothing was done - not unusual as I mentioned at the start of the post - for us.
About a month or so we again went out looking at mail boxes. This time we decided that box was too small and we were looking at larger rectangular boxes. We have a choice of buying a mail box at Home Depot or Lowes. I guess Ace has them too, but they are more expensive. We made our choice.
Last week husband brings up the subject again - we go to Home Depot and Lowes and compare what they have and the prices. Looking at the box we were planning to get, we started thinking - “Hmmm, does that make it look like there something really exciting in the mail box as it is so large and locked. Will it make it more attractive to someone to break into it?” We decide to get the first mail box which looks more like a regular mail box and might not be more attractive.
Sunday we buy the mail box. Now remember, we are not morning people and our normal Sunday is a trip to Costco, BJs, and a different Walmart than usual in the next county, with lunch at the Costco. So by the time we buy the mail box and head home it around 4 pm. (Can you see where this is going?)
We take the mail box into the garage (and climb over the snow blower which we still have not bought a shed for it to live in and over the leaf blower we used 2 years ago, etc. plus all the power tools set up in this with all in disarray as husband always says “I really have to clean up in here” but we never do). We open the box and check the mail box and it looks fine. It come with 2 matching sets of 2 keys (four keys which each fit both the front and back locks on the box). The keys are there and of course get taken out of the envelope they came in. Logic would say to put one set of keys in one of our pockets and leave the other set of keys in the envelope, but both sets are taken out of the envelope.
First thing to do is remove the old mailbox from the post. We do this very easily - four small screws, two in each of the left and right sides of the mailbox. The old mailbox is set aside in the backyard - just in case this all does not work out.
We had to buy a piece for the mail box which allows it to be on the post, on a different type of post or on a wooden arm (in choice of 2 different directions). So the second thing to do is attach this piece to our post. We open the piece and take out the instructions and find the hardware needed to put it on the type of post we have. This involves putting four LONG screws into the wood of the post - two in the front and two in the back. Now understand, husband has a major assortment of power and hand tools. Problem - the hole in the piece is slightly larger than our post - it will not affect the piece sitting around the post, but the piece has to be level with the top of the post, but slides down it. We both have the same idea - he screws a scrap piece of wood diagonally over the hole and now it sits on the top of the post. We place the piece in position on top of the post. He takes out a battery operated screwdriver and starts screwing one of the back screws through the piece and into the post. It stops about half way in and will not go further. Husband goes and gets a plug in drill and tries - same problem. “I guess I should have drilled a pilot hole.” He unscrews the screw and gets a thin drill bit. The drill bit goes partway in and breaks. So now there is a drill bit in the wood where the screw needs to go. We decide to ignore this screw for now.
He goes to the front and, with a larger drill bit, drills a pilot hole and with the combination of battery operated screwdriver, plug in drill, and hand screwdriver - he finally gets the screw in. Yay! This is repeated on the other front and the other rear screw - these having their own problem as he stand on the flattened (for this purpose) branches of a shrub.. Along the way he looks at his watch and says “so much for dinner” - it will be too late to go out for dinner, as we do on Sunday evenings, when we are done. We can’t stop as it will be too dark to finish later and we won’t have a box for Monday’s mail delivery.
We test the piece and it rocks as it is missing the first screw which we were unable to put in. What to do? I came up with the idea of using the four small screws that we took out of the old mail box and post. The side of the piece to hold the mail box has holes in the side for a different assembly - but that assembly is for the piece to be raised up so the sides overlap the holes. We manage to get these screws into the side holes and the piece no longer rocks.
Third step - putting the mailbox in place. We need a key for this as the bolt heads go inside the mail box. I go back to the garage - I can only find one set of keys. Rather than waste time I figure husband has the other set and this set is plenty to work with. Putting the mailbox in place actually goes rather well. (It does bother me that a security mail box has nuts on the bottom of it connecting it to the connecting piece, which itself is screwed on by accessible screws - so either set of screws can be removed - but that is how it is.) We try the doors and they work - there is room to open the back of the box from the house door (we were worried it was too close to the house).
I then mention the missing keys. He does not have them. We go back into the garage and find them. We go into the house. I immediately take one of the keys and put it onto my key ring - just in case. We have dinner and the evening passes.
Husband suggests that we put up a “decorative” hook in the front hall for a mailbox key to be hung from - “we will look for one”. Oh yes, more time wasted shopping and juggling the key in the interim and how long will that take? Then I remember something which I did not donate when I thought to do so. A nice, small brass plate with a double hook at the bottom. I think we got it as a gift from his sister - that is in the back of my head. It was a bit “Victorian” for our “Georgian” style decor so we did not buy it. But there it is - in the bottom drawer of my desk - wow I even found it exactly where I thought it would be. He likes it and rushes to put it up.
Now we have to put a key on a piece of yarn to hang it up - here’s the single key on a ring - where is the other ring with two keys? (How can I be able to find something I haven’t seen in years on the first try, but a set of keys for something we bought the same day keeps disappearing?) We find them and I put in them with the instructions, etc. to put away. He puts the key on a piece of yarn and hangs it up.
The mail box works! We have taken in mail from it for three days now. It is not a problem to open with the key. Now we can go on a trip and not worry about the mail sitting at home snug in its locking box.
THOUGHT FOR THE WEEK -
Find something you keep putting off doing - one thing. And do it! Every step forward is something done.
Epilogue -
We had to take the old mail box into the garage due to a MAJOR rain and wind storm Monday. I plan to clean it up a bit and take it to Goodwill on my next trip to same with items to donate. This will keep it out of the garbage and help someone who can use the mail box as its only problem is that we wanted a locking one - the box itself has much life left in it.
Now some background. For over two decades we had a great Post Office where we live. The mail was delivered with no problem. When we went away for summer vacation and had our mail held, when we picked it up there was no problem and mail delivery was immediately restarted. About 3 years ago we started having problems with our mail delivery - in the past 2 years, when I started keeping track, three items for my accounting business from IRS - with all my personal and business identification information in all three - went astray and never made it here. Two credit card statements - from two different banks - ditto. A few bank statements from assorted banks - ditto. Several pieces of mail - mostly ads, but still they could have been important mail, has shown up having been opened by someone else and then taped closed again - obviously delivered to someone else and opened in error by them, taped closed and dropped back in the mail. We have gotten a number of items addressed to other people and delivered to us. Now, I don’t mean the neighbor next door or down the street - these are addressed to people on streets we have never heard of and we have lived in the immediate area for almost 40 years and husband grew up for another 15 or more years, so these are not streets in the nearby area either. We have been working on switching our mailing address to our Post Office box, which is at a different Post Office than the one our house mail goes through. When we mail items out they go through the Post Office with our box. (Due to the design of the different Post Offices’ coverage areas by community our Post Office is further away from us than two other Post Offices as we live at the far northern end of the coverage area, so we have always used one or the other of these two nearer Post Offices to send out mail.)
When we used to travel by car and stay at hotels we would take several weekend trips during the year and a longer summer vacation (up to 3 weeks when husband was working). We would not have our mail held for the weekend trips - we would leave after Friday’s mail was delivered and take it in before we left and then just Saturday’s and possibly Monday’s mail would be delivered depending on whether we came home Sunday or Monday night. We would have the mail held by the Post Office for summer vacation and then go in, pick up the mail, and restart delivery. (We would not notify the other Post Office to hold the Box mail either, except for the summer as they automatically set aside in the back any excess mail over the size of our box.)
We now tend to travel in the middle of the week instead of the weekends for our short trips - and there are fewer of them. It is easier to get a space at a RV park midweek - a reservation at an RV park generally cannot be canceled close to the date so we tend not to make reservations for short trips until we know for sure that we are going. Also the place we normally go for short trips is a heavy tourist area with a lot of weekend visitors which crowd many of the places we go and annoy husband, so we go midweek instead. Now when we go away the mail three to four days of mail ends up sitting in the box in front of our house. (We tend to leave earlier in the day on the trip as some local main roads are under construction and we have to get to a certain point after the worst of rush hour and before construction starts for the day, so the first day of the trip’s mail is now in the box where before we took it in before we left.) So we now feel more uncomfortable leaving the mail in the box in front of the house while we are away. We don’t want to have the mail held as this has become a problem with our Post Office. The solution? We decided last year that we need to have a locking mailbox for the front of the house.
We have a post mail box, meaning we have the type of box that sits on top of a post, similar to those in more rural areas where the boxes sit along the side of the road so that the postal delivery person (who used to be the “mailman”) can put the mail into the box without leaving his vehicle. However, we have our post and mailbox adjacent to our front door not at the street - just a bit more secure than having the mailbox at the street.
On and off since the beginning of 2016's travel season we have been looking at replacement mail boxes. We picked out one that we liked - it is shaped like a regular post mail box (round top), but locks closed. Somehow that idea got set aside for the winter and nothing was done - not unusual as I mentioned at the start of the post - for us.
About a month or so we again went out looking at mail boxes. This time we decided that box was too small and we were looking at larger rectangular boxes. We have a choice of buying a mail box at Home Depot or Lowes. I guess Ace has them too, but they are more expensive. We made our choice.
Last week husband brings up the subject again - we go to Home Depot and Lowes and compare what they have and the prices. Looking at the box we were planning to get, we started thinking - “Hmmm, does that make it look like there something really exciting in the mail box as it is so large and locked. Will it make it more attractive to someone to break into it?” We decide to get the first mail box which looks more like a regular mail box and might not be more attractive.
Sunday we buy the mail box. Now remember, we are not morning people and our normal Sunday is a trip to Costco, BJs, and a different Walmart than usual in the next county, with lunch at the Costco. So by the time we buy the mail box and head home it around 4 pm. (Can you see where this is going?)
We take the mail box into the garage (and climb over the snow blower which we still have not bought a shed for it to live in and over the leaf blower we used 2 years ago, etc. plus all the power tools set up in this with all in disarray as husband always says “I really have to clean up in here” but we never do). We open the box and check the mail box and it looks fine. It come with 2 matching sets of 2 keys (four keys which each fit both the front and back locks on the box). The keys are there and of course get taken out of the envelope they came in. Logic would say to put one set of keys in one of our pockets and leave the other set of keys in the envelope, but both sets are taken out of the envelope.
First thing to do is remove the old mailbox from the post. We do this very easily - four small screws, two in each of the left and right sides of the mailbox. The old mailbox is set aside in the backyard - just in case this all does not work out.
We had to buy a piece for the mail box which allows it to be on the post, on a different type of post or on a wooden arm (in choice of 2 different directions). So the second thing to do is attach this piece to our post. We open the piece and take out the instructions and find the hardware needed to put it on the type of post we have. This involves putting four LONG screws into the wood of the post - two in the front and two in the back. Now understand, husband has a major assortment of power and hand tools. Problem - the hole in the piece is slightly larger than our post - it will not affect the piece sitting around the post, but the piece has to be level with the top of the post, but slides down it. We both have the same idea - he screws a scrap piece of wood diagonally over the hole and now it sits on the top of the post. We place the piece in position on top of the post. He takes out a battery operated screwdriver and starts screwing one of the back screws through the piece and into the post. It stops about half way in and will not go further. Husband goes and gets a plug in drill and tries - same problem. “I guess I should have drilled a pilot hole.” He unscrews the screw and gets a thin drill bit. The drill bit goes partway in and breaks. So now there is a drill bit in the wood where the screw needs to go. We decide to ignore this screw for now.
He goes to the front and, with a larger drill bit, drills a pilot hole and with the combination of battery operated screwdriver, plug in drill, and hand screwdriver - he finally gets the screw in. Yay! This is repeated on the other front and the other rear screw - these having their own problem as he stand on the flattened (for this purpose) branches of a shrub.. Along the way he looks at his watch and says “so much for dinner” - it will be too late to go out for dinner, as we do on Sunday evenings, when we are done. We can’t stop as it will be too dark to finish later and we won’t have a box for Monday’s mail delivery.
We test the piece and it rocks as it is missing the first screw which we were unable to put in. What to do? I came up with the idea of using the four small screws that we took out of the old mail box and post. The side of the piece to hold the mail box has holes in the side for a different assembly - but that assembly is for the piece to be raised up so the sides overlap the holes. We manage to get these screws into the side holes and the piece no longer rocks.
Third step - putting the mailbox in place. We need a key for this as the bolt heads go inside the mail box. I go back to the garage - I can only find one set of keys. Rather than waste time I figure husband has the other set and this set is plenty to work with. Putting the mailbox in place actually goes rather well. (It does bother me that a security mail box has nuts on the bottom of it connecting it to the connecting piece, which itself is screwed on by accessible screws - so either set of screws can be removed - but that is how it is.) We try the doors and they work - there is room to open the back of the box from the house door (we were worried it was too close to the house).
I then mention the missing keys. He does not have them. We go back into the garage and find them. We go into the house. I immediately take one of the keys and put it onto my key ring - just in case. We have dinner and the evening passes.
Husband suggests that we put up a “decorative” hook in the front hall for a mailbox key to be hung from - “we will look for one”. Oh yes, more time wasted shopping and juggling the key in the interim and how long will that take? Then I remember something which I did not donate when I thought to do so. A nice, small brass plate with a double hook at the bottom. I think we got it as a gift from his sister - that is in the back of my head. It was a bit “Victorian” for our “Georgian” style decor so we did not buy it. But there it is - in the bottom drawer of my desk - wow I even found it exactly where I thought it would be. He likes it and rushes to put it up.
Now we have to put a key on a piece of yarn to hang it up - here’s the single key on a ring - where is the other ring with two keys? (How can I be able to find something I haven’t seen in years on the first try, but a set of keys for something we bought the same day keeps disappearing?) We find them and I put in them with the instructions, etc. to put away. He puts the key on a piece of yarn and hangs it up.
The mail box works! We have taken in mail from it for three days now. It is not a problem to open with the key. Now we can go on a trip and not worry about the mail sitting at home snug in its locking box.
THOUGHT FOR THE WEEK -
Find something you keep putting off doing - one thing. And do it! Every step forward is something done.
Epilogue -
We had to take the old mail box into the garage due to a MAJOR rain and wind storm Monday. I plan to clean it up a bit and take it to Goodwill on my next trip to same with items to donate. This will keep it out of the garbage and help someone who can use the mail box as its only problem is that we wanted a locking one - the box itself has much life left in it.
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